Wesley Llewellyn on Talking Strange: UFOs and JD Vance

Wesley Llewellyn, co-director and host of the documentary UFOs and God, joins Aaron Sagers on Talking Strange. Llewellyn says the film grew out of the account of Amanda, his then-fiancée, who told him she had been abducted as a child. He explains why he interprets the UFO phenomenon as spiritual rather than extraterrestrial.

The conversation addresses JD Vance’s description of aliens as “demons” on Joe Rogan. Llewellyn argues that this label closes down discussion rather than opening it, while Sagers challenges the documentary’s Christian lens. The exchange is presented as a discussion of belief and competing interpretations, not as confirmation that UFOs are supernatural or extraterrestrial.

Other topics include Bob Lazar’s claim about “containers,” Travis Walton, the Nephilim and the Book of Enoch, the 2017 New York Times reports on UAP, government disclosure, and how the church treats people who report unusual experiences. The discussion ranges across faith, the paranormal, and unexplained phenomena.