Tim Spenny: Tic Tac to Grusch, which claims hold up?

Tim Spenny examines UFO claims, moving from the Tic Tac encounter to David Grusch’s testimony. The conversation focuses on which claims hold up to scrutiny, rather than simply on what sounds intriguing or dramatic.

The Tic Tac is the name given to an object observed during a U.S. Navy UFO encounter. Grusch, a former U.S. intelligence official, became known for claims about government programs related to UFOs. The discussion considers these subjects side by side; presenting the claims does not establish that they are true.