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17:57f okay all right good morning this joint hearing of the subcommittee on cyber security information technology and government Innovation and the subcomittee on National Security the border and Foreign Affairs will come to order good morning and welcome everyone without objection the chair May declare recess at any time and I recognize myself for the purpose of making an opening statement right now good morning and welcome to today's historic hearing which I'm co-chairing with Mr growman who subcomittee held an important hearing on this topic last year I want to thank my colleagues on the oversight committee

18:43including Mr burett Mr burles Miss Luna Mr Mo moscowitz Mr Garcia for their Relentless drive to get ansers on uaps they've been steadfast in demanding transparency on the sightings reported by a milit Ary pilots and armed forces their commitment to digging for the truth is exactly what this country needs to cut through the secrecy surrounding this issue and many high-ranking individuals in the military and intelligence communities believe uaps demand greater attention and thus the purpose for this hearing today former National Security adviser HR McMaster said on Bill Mars's program that quote there are phenomena that have been witnessed by multiple people that are

19:29just inexplicable by the science available to US army colonel Carl Nell a member of the federal government UAP task force said at a conference this past May that non-human intelligence exists non-human intelligence has been interacting with Humanity this interaction is not new and it's been ongoing and there are unelected people in the government that are aware of that but uaps remain a controversial topic I'm not going to name names but there are certain individuals who didn't want this hearing to happen because they feared what might be disclosed but we stood firm no amount of outside pressure would ever keep me from pursuing a subject to ground come hell or high water on that score I want

20:15to thank our Witnesses for being here we have before us a panel of individuals accomplished in the military in civilian government in science and in journalism some of the testimony you will hear them deliver today does not reflect well on influential individuals and agencies within the US federal government and perhaps some of our contractors it's never easy to present such information publicly so I appreciate your our Witnesses voluntarily agreeing to being here today this hearing is attended to help Congress and the American people to learn the extent of the programs and activities our government has engaged in with respect to uaps and what knowledge it has yielded this includes of course any knowledge of extraterrestrial life

21:01or technology of non-human origin if government funded research on uaps has not yielded any useful knowledge we also need to know those facts taxpayers deserve to know how much has it been invested how much has been spent they shouldn't be kept in the dark to spare the Pentagon a little bit of embarrassment the reality is despite their enormous taxpayer funded budgets the transparency of the defense department and the intelligence Community have long been abysmal the Pentagon has failed six consecutive audits in fact it's never actually passed one adding to this is a runaway over classification of documents and

21:47materials a reluctance to declassify materials when appropriate and at times an outright refusal to share critical information with Congress in short it's not a track record that instills trust so Congress has tried in recent years to lift the veil and find out if information about uaps is being withheld not only from the American public but also from their elected representatives in Congress part of the transparency effort was legislation created in the Pentagon the all domain anomaly resolution office or Arrow but the new office is struggling to get its footing a recent statue orally required report from Arrow intended to illuminate the

22:32government's historic assessment of uaps was heavily criticized by those seeking UAP transparency the report has stoked suspicions arrow is unable or perhaps unwilling to bring forward the truth about the government's activities concerning uaps I'm disturbed that Arrow itself lacks transparency even its budget is kept from the public so there is no there there then why are we spending money on it and by how much why the secrecy if it's really no big deal and there's nothing there why hide it from the American people because I'm not a mathematician but I can tell you that doesn't add up I expect some of our

23:17witnesses to share their views on that Arrow report we will also hear from the witnesses today allegations of UAP related misinformation and disinformation by government officials of which they are personally aware and directly experienced and we will hear testimony today concerning recent Revelations about a purportedly secret UAP program whose existence and findings may have been improperly withheld from Congress um but before we get to the witnesses we're going to have a few more opening statements from our colleagues and one thing I wanted to add uh at the end of my closing statement is there is a document that will be entered into the Congressional Record today uh Mr Tim burchett from Tennessee has this document and we just distribut it to every member up here on the dis of this

24:03document but this is going to be uh the original document from the Pentagon about Immaculate constellation that Michael shellenberger delivered to Congress today so thank you Mr shellenberger for this information we are all reading it in real time now and Mr burett will enter it into the record but 12 pages about this unacknowledged special access program that your government says does not exist so uh with that I would uh acknowledge uh my colleagues Mr Garcia uh I want to say first of all to Mr Connelly who cannot be here today the ranking member on my subcommittee on cyber security I want to say that I was great greatly saddened to hear about the

24:48recent news of Mr connell's cancer diagnosis and I want to convey to him and to all of our colleagues we wish our very best to you and a full and speedy recovery and with that I would uh acknowledge Mr Garcia for five minutes thank you thank you very much um chairwoman I want to thank the chairwoman and uh and the chairman um both for their continued support and and really um treating this uh this discussion and these hearings in a way that's bipartisan I think one thing that's very important for all of us that are interested in uh the conversation around uaps is that this is an area that both Republicans and Democrats where we may disagree in a lot of other spaces this is an area where bipartisanship is really important and in fact I would add it's critical that we all continue to work together um in a way that that

25:33moves forward with the truth and uh and important disclosure so we're here to have a bipartisan and serious conversation um I believe about our national security we should always ground these conversations in facts evidence and the data in front of us I want to note that we have um our Witnesses here I want to thank you all for being here and note that also we amongst you you have folks have also served us um in our military and um I know that for for many of you this has been a difficult process but I'm very grateful to have you with us today and thank you for joining us I also want to note that today's hearing Builds on a a quite I think also historic public hearing that we had um many months ago that um Mr grman and others helped lead uh in this very same hearing room where I believe we began a really important

26:18public conversation about uaps and so I want to thank him for that and I especially want to thank again chairwoman ma for her continued advocacy on this topic I also want to start to St with some facts we know that there are objects or phenomena observed in our airspace as your witnesses will testify and also possibly in our oceans uh in many cases we don't know what they are and this is of course why we're discussing uaps now the all demain anomaly resolution office Arrow has reported hundreds of uaps that remain quote uncharacterized and unattributed and which quote appear to have demonstrated unusual flight characteristics or performance capabilities and require further analysis this is our own um Arrow office now we shouldn't prejudge what they might be I'm certainly not going to we

27:03need evidence but we are detecting things and we know that we don't understand them and this is worth investigating now the American people have legitimate questions and I believe it's critical that Congress should help address them this is about the truth and Science and facts now transparency and faith in our institutions is vital in a good democracy now I'm proud to say this hearing will build on that important bipartisan work and I want to thank everyone being involved including members of our committee now in our last Hearing in July we heard testimony that a significant number of Pilots of major airlines have witness uaps as well but have no real confidential way of reporting them to the government we heard that commercial pilots who encounter uaps may be hesitant to speak openly due to stigma or fear of retaliation we also know that Arrow has

27:48reported that and I want to quote that most reports still reflect a bias toward restricted military airspace a result of reporting from military personnel and sensors present in such areas and so the lack of ability for civilian Pilots raises real safety concerns and limits our ability to understand uaps this is a particular piece of this conversation that I am very interested in now our last hearing inspired us to introduce the safe air space for Americans act joined by chairman grawin chairwoman mace and a bipartisan group of co-sponsors I see some of our leaders from uh from safe airspace for Americans act here and that would create a a safe reporting for UAP process which we want to continue to do now members of both parties and Senior officials in multiple administrations have now taken an

28:34interest in this issue uh mainstream media in many cases are beginning to take more of an interest in this issue and we should all be proud to carry that work and build confidence for the American people I believe we can always be more transparent to me this hearing and others are simply about the truth and getting to the facts of what these uaps actually are it's very important that we show that Democrats and Republicans in Congress can work together to cut through misinformation and look for a serious and thoughtful way to have the discussion in public many of us have also called for additional public hearings to discuss uaps this should be a topic that continues on throughout the Congress so that we can gather more information data and work with the relevant agencies to gather more information finally just

29:19want to add that those that are here on this Das many of us have participated also in classified uh briefings as well and where we have also gained a lot of important I think and interesting information at least I personally have and so with that information we want to continue today's hearing and I think all of our Witnesses for being here and with that I'd like to yield back thank you Mr Garcia and i' now like to recognize Mr growman for five minute introduction thank you uh good morning i' like to thank our Witnesses for being here one more time this is a a topic I've been interested in since 8th grade like to thank Miss mace for working me on this topic and for making this a joint subcommittee hearing last year the subcommittee on National Security the board and Foreign Affairs here held an historic hearing to understand the

30:05potential National Security risk of unidentified anomalous phenomena or uaps we heard from former Navy Commander David fraver who shared firsthand experience with the UAP engaged while on duty in the Pacific we learned from David Gres a former member of the intelligence Community revealed the supposed existence of secret government programs hidden from congressional over site additionally formally additionally former military pilot Ryan Graves informed us of The Limited ways in which the military and commercial pilots can report UAP sightings since that last hearings I've LED several briefings with government agencies to deepen my understanding with these issues first the Department of Defense inspector General's office informed us that the Department of Defense does not have a

30:50streamlined process for service members to report UAP activity since then the Joint Chiefs have implemented stand ards for UAP reporting across the services the intelligence Community Inspector General informed us that whistleblowers often fear retaliation for reporting mismanagement of highly sensitive government projects or information finally AO has expressed to the committee that like any other federal government agency it's faed challenges in its establishment specifically in hiring staff to manage UAP historical records and coordinating with other federal agencies well these agencies have been helpful to us in understanding the challenges that come from collecting UAP data none of

31:35them have been able to substantiate the claims made at this hearing last year by David grush despite our our committee members endlessly questioning these agencies inside and outside of a skiff I hope our Witnesses today will be able to provide evidence and content that is worthwhile to our Pursuits of eliminating government waste and increasing transparency to help alleviate some of the roadblocks I'm supportive of measures that were included in last year's def National Defense authorization act to increase transparency and improve recordkeeping measures when it comes to uaps but I believe there's still more work to go I co-led the safe airspace for Americans act with ran member Gara which required which requires the Federal Aviation Administration to develop procedures to collect UAP data from civilian

32:22aviators I look forward to looking members of working with members of Congress to see that this legislation other UAP legislation uh crosses the Finish Line I'm deeply alarmed by the reporting of massive of the massive drone drone swarm that flew over Langley Air Force Base in Virginia last December Langley is the home of the first Fighter Wing which maintains half of the f-22s in in the US Air Force inventory reports of this incident indicate these drones were roughly 20 ft long flying more than 100 miles an hour hour and an altitude of over 3,000 ft yet the origin of these drones and their operators remains a mystery this incident and other

33:07sightings near sensitive military installations highlights the complexity of the UAP challenge facing our intelligence defense and Homeland Security committees whether these phenomena are the result of foreign advoc adversaries developing Advanced Technologies or something else entirely we must take them seriously investig them thoroughly and assess their implications on National Defense the repeated UAP sightings around sensitive military sites underscores the need for Innovative defensive strategies Beyond traditional measures they also highlight the urgent need for updated policies to address emerging threats as well as more effective inter agency cooperation and intelligence sharing however none of this is going to

33:53be possible without transparency for far too long un critical information about uaps has been either classified or ignored leaving the American public in ke Congressman without Clarity needed to make informed decisions declassifying reports and fostering a more open dialogue about uaps will not only increase the public trust but also encourage collaboration between government the scientific community and our allies quite frankly there's been things that have been kept secret that is I think old enough that there is no reason it shouldn't be released regardless of any so-called you know private um

34:39information a transparent approach will allow us to share insights identify patterns and develop new strategic defenses as we continue to investigate these phenomena we must do so with a mindset of protecting our country advancing scientific discovery and upholding the trust of the American people who right now I don't think have trust and it it's just obvious uh I don't have trust we cannot shy away from the unknown especially when the stakes are so high I look forward to discussing these matters with the witnesses today I'm hopeful we can learn from the testimony and come out of this hearing with action actionable ideas to advance UAP transparency actually the idea is is just to say in my mind go back 15 years and everything has to be released I'm

35:24hopeful that we can learn from their testimony and come out of this hearing uh and with that a yeld back thank you I'll now recognize Mr moscowitz for a 5 minute introduction uh thank you uh chairwoman good morning everyone uh I first want to thank the chairs and ranking members for holding the hearing today on this topic uh and again having a second hearing I want to thank the witnesses uh for coming forward today to share your expertise on uaps and the need to build trust through transparency but but first I want to mention you might be wondering why chairman comr has allowed me to be a ranking member today but it's really only because our dear friend uh Jerry Connelly is not here uh as uh chairwoman mace mentioned uh he was diagnosed with esophageal cancer and

36:10all of us on this committee know uh know Jerry and he's a fighter uh and we're praying for him and hoping for his speedy recovery so today's hearing marks this committee's second meeting dedicated to UAP transparency uh I was pleased as I know all of us are on the bipartisanship uh that existed in last year's hearing and even though we can't talk about what happens in the classified settings the bipartisanship that has existed uh in in those settings with the questions members have asked last year's hearing was a great example of open dialogue about uaps and we must remain committed to sharing information with the American people uh and I think you see that commitment based on the people here and the commitment across the political Spectrum I personally have

36:56worked with multiple members of this committee uh but I want to particularly thank uh uh congressmen uh brette mace Luna and Garcia uh for working on bipartisan pieces of legislation in recent years Congress has taken numerous bipartisan steps towards greater transparency in 2022 in the ndaa we created uh the all domain anomaly resolution office to investigate unidentified flying objects following Arrow along with OD and I release an unclassified report on UAP sightings of the 366 sightings included in the report 171 remain uncharacterized with some of these appearing to have demonstrated unusual flight characteristics or performance capabilities um that's a

37:42nice way of saying we don't want to tell you what they are in March era revealed a report on the historical record of US Government involvement with uaps which covered investigatory effort going back from 1945 to the present day earlier this year I joined joed Congressman brette to introduce the UAP transparency act which would require the declassification of all documents related to uaps with many other members of this Committee in fiscal year 2024 the NDA required the National Archives and Records Administration to establish the unidentified Anonymous phenomena records collection this collection will include digital copies of all unidentified UAP records that can be publicly disclosed this commitment is in transparency is vitally important and unne and unnecessary over classification

38:29has led to uh a void of information which has allowed theories over the decades to Foster when the American people and members of Congress ask our reports of uaps credal credible we're met with stonewalling we're met with responses of I can't tell you and in fact we're met with people not wanting us to have hearings we're met with people not wanting us to ask you questions in fact many of us were told not to ask some of you certain questions on certain topics um in a time of heightened distrust of our government uh institutions I believe more transparency is not only needed but is possible and obviously we can respect National

39:14Security limits but we also have to provide our constituents with the information and oversight that they have tasked us for as part of this government agencies must maintain open lines of communication with members of Congress and there are regular questions that Americans have what are uaps are they real are they ours how has this technology been developed how do they get funded right and now we've seen this has gone from a long time ago where you could discredit people because it's some guy living in a Winnebago you're you're able to see people now these are pilots these are military these are folks with serious background this has changed the face of this

40:00because now we have video people have questions we know there are advanced technology programs almost 15 years ago one of those came out of Area 51 to go after Osama Bin Laden and the only reason we know about that is because one of those helicopters was downed Americans have questions about whistleblowers who have come forward to talk about retribution um and so I want to thank everyone for being involved to get today on trying to get more transparency this has been by partisan by camerel uh and as we get into a new Administration the president head elect has talked about opportunities to declassify information on uaps and I

40:47hope he lives up uh to uh to that promise and with that I yield back okay thank you Mr moscowitz and I would now committee staff ask me to go ahead and I will do it uh to enter into the Congressional Record this 12-page document that Michael shellenberger brought today that describes the immaculate constellation government program um so we will do that now uh every member up here has a copy of it uh the first section uh talks about the unacknowledged special Access program called Immaculate constellation and the second section about uh USG imagery intelligence and uh representative Luna just told me if I say Immaculate constellation I'll be on some list um maybe a fisa warrant so uh come at me bro I guess but uh without objection entered in the

41:34record uh all right so next we will introduce our Witnesses for today's hearing uh thank you so much for being here our first witness is rear retired rear Admiral Tim gallet who retired from the US Navy and is now the chief executive officer at Ocean STL Consulting our second witness is Mr Lou Al alzando a former Department of Defense official and author of a recent bestseller book about uaps our third witness is Mr Michael shellenberger founder of the newsletter public and author of a recent journalistic piece about special access programs including one widely identified as Immaculate constellation I swear the staff wants me on a list um okay and our last witness today is Mr Michael Gold a former NASA official who is also a member of the

42:20NASA UAP independent study team welcome everyone we are pleased to have you today pursuant to committee rule 9g the witnesses will please stand and raise your right hands this is where it gets real do you solemnly swear to affirm that the testimony that you are about to give is the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth so help you God let the record show that the witnesses all answered in the affirmative we appreciate all of you being here today and look forward to your testimony let me remind the witnesses that we have read your written statements and they will appear in full in the hearing record you guys may be seated please limit your oral statements to 5 minutes as a reminder please press the button in front of you so the microphone is turned on so that uh

43:05everyone in the room members included can hear you when you begin to speak the light in front of you will turn green after four minutes the light will turn yellow when the red light comes on your five minutes has expired and we would ask that you please wrap it up so I will first recognize R admal gallet to please begin your opening remarks thank you chairwoman Mace chairman grothman ranking members Connelly and Garcia and members of the committee thank you for this opportunity to testify today regarding unidentified anomalous phenomena or UAP confirmation that uaps are real came to me in January of 2015 when I was serving as the commander of the Navy meteorology and oceanography command uh at the time my Personnel were participating in a predeployment naval exercise off the US

43:51East Coast it included the USS Theodore Roosevelt carrier strike group and this exercise was overseen by the United States Fleet forces command led by a fourstar Admiral who at the time was also my Superior officer during this exercise I received an email on a Navy secured network from the operations officer of us Fleet forces command the email was addressed to all the subordinate commanders and the subject line read in all capital letters urgent safety a flight issue the text of the email was brief but alarming with words to the effect if any of you know what these are tell me ASAP we are having multiple near midair collisions and if we do not resolve this soon we are going to have to shut down the exercise attached to the email is what is now known as the goast video captured on the

44:38forward-looking infrared sensor of one of the Navy fa18 aircraft participating in the exercise the now Declassified video showed an unidentified object exhibiting flight and structural characteristics unlike anything in our Arsenal the implication of the email was clear the author was asking whether any of the recipients were aware of classified technology demonstration demonstrations that could explain these objects because the dod policy is to rig rigorously deconflict such demonstrations with live exercises I was confident this was not the case the very next day that email disappeared from my account and those of the other recipients without explanation moreover the commander of Fleet forces command and the operations officer never

45:23discussed the subject even during weekly meetings specifically designed to address issues affecting exercises like the one in which the theer Roosevelt strike group was participating this lack of followup was very concerning to me as the Navy's Chief neurologist at the time I was responsible for reducing safety of flight risks yet it appeared to me that no one at the flag officer level was addressing the safety risk posed by uaps instead Pilots were left to mitigate these threats on their own without guidance or support I concluded that the UAP information must been classified within a special access program managed by an intelligence agency that is a compartment of program that even senior officials including myself were not read into last year's UAP hearing before this

46:08oversight committee confirmed that UAP related information is being withheld from senior officials and members of Congress and just this week I learned from former DOD official Chris melan that satellite imagery of UAP from a few years ago still has not been shared with Congress equally concerning last Year's UAP hearing also revealed that elements of the government are engaged in a disinformation campaign to include personal attacks designed to discredit UAP whistleblowers having never signed a non-disclosure agreement regarding uaps and now as a private citizen I've become an advocate for greater UAP transparency from the government the C the continued over classification surrounding uaps has not only hindered our ability to effectively address these phenomena but has also eroded trust in our

46:54institutions while I applaud previous bipartisan legislation passed by Congress concerning uaps a more con comprehensive approach is needed to address the broader implication of UAP on public safety and National Security as well as the socioeconomic opportunities that open UAP research could unlock therefore I recommend Congress take the following action which I believe will receive bipartisan support first establish robust oversight of the executive Branch's management of UAP information by directing key officials beginning with the director of the dod's all domain anomaly resolution office to provide comprehensive briefings on what the government knows about UAP and does not know two enact the provisions of the UAP disclosure act that establish a UAP records review board to ensure independent oversight

47:39transparency and accountability in the government's handling of UAP information and three strengthen the UAP disclosure act and future reauthorizations with Provisions that mandate a whole of government approach to addressing UAP in closing I will share my personal reasons for speaking out on this topic topic first as a former science agency leader having led the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration I've always sought the truth in human knowledge and thought now that we know UAP are interacting with humanity and these include unidentified submerged objects in the ocean we should not turn a blind eye but instead boldly face this new reality and learn from it additionally at a time when leaders and government leave much to be desired I feel obligated to show moral leadership on this issue of UAP Disclosure by

48:25validating The credibility of the courageous men and women who have come out as Witnesses and whistleblowers to expose the truth my speaking out has encouraged others to do the same and it may in my it's my hope over time that a number of your constituents will want to know the truth and about UAP and will increase this number will increase to such an extent that the congressional action I've just recommended will become inevitable thank you and I look forward to your questions thank you I will now recognize Mr alzando for his opening statement greetings chairwoman mace chairman gothman ranking members Connelly and Garcia and members of the committee it is my honor and privilege to testify before you on the issue of unidentified anomalous phenomenon formerly known as UFOs on behalf of our

49:10brave men and women in uniform and across the intelligence Community as well as my fellow Americans who have awaited this day thank you for your leadership on this important matter let me be clear UAP are real Advanced Technologies not made by our government or any other government are monitoring sensitive military installations around the globe furthermore the US is in possession of UAP Technologies as are some of our adversaries I believe we are in the midst of a multi-decade secretive arms race one funded by misallocated taxpayer dollars and hidden from our elected representatives and oversight bodies for many years I was entrusted with protecting some of our nation's most sensitive programs in my last position I managed a special access program on behalf of the White House and

49:55the National Security Council as such I appreciate the need to protect certain sensitive intelligence and Military information I consider my oath to protect Secrets as sacred and I will always put the safety of the American people first with that said I also understand the consequences of excessive secrecy and stovepiping nowhere was this more apparent than in the aftermath of 9/11 which many of us remember all too well I believe that America's greatness depends on three elements a a watchful Congress B A responsive executive branch and C an informed public over the last decade and a half I learned that certain UAP programs were and are operating without any of these elements although much of my government work on the UAP subject

50:41Still Remains classified excessive secrecy has led to grave misdeeds against loyal civil servants military personnel and the public all to hide the fact that we are not alone in the cosmos A small Cadre within our own government involved in the UAP topic has created a culture of suppression and intimidation that I've personally been victim to along with many of my former colleagues this includes unwarranted criminal investigations harassment and efforts to destroy one's credibility most Americans would be shocked to learn that the pentagon's very own public affairs office openly emplo employs a professional psychological operations officer as the singular point of contact for any UAP related inquiries from citizens and the media

51:27this is unacceptable many of my former colleagues and I have provided classified testimony to both the Department of Defense and the intelligence Community Inspector General and many of us have subsequently been targeted by this cabal with threats to our careers our security clearances and even our lives this is not hyperbole but a genuine fact and this is wrong to fix these problems I propos three principal actions first Congress and the President should create a single point of contact responsible for a of government approach to the UAP issue currently the White House CIA NASA the Pentagon Department of energy and others play a role but no one seems to be in charge leading to unchecked power and Corruption second we need a national UAP strategy that will promote transparency and help restore

52:13the American public's trust at a time when the Public's trust is at an all-time low this strategy should include a whole of government approach including the academic and scientific communities the private sector and our International partners and allies third Congress should create a protected environment so whistleblowers desperate to do the right thing can come forward without fear as it currently stands these whistleblowers suffer because of stigma a Code of Silence and concerns about retaliation these whistleblowers should be encouraged to come forward in ways that protect them against any forms of retaliation policies and procedures should ensure that protection and for those who refuse to cooperate is up to the members of this committee and the other lawmakers to wield their subpoena power against hostile Witnesses and prevent additional Government funding to

52:58those UAP efforts that remain hidden from congressional oversight in closing We As Americans have never been afraid of a challenge in fact we thrive on them whether it's eradicating polio or going to the Moon we don't run from a challenge we take it headon to the incoming Administration and Congress I say to you we need immediate public transparency and this hearing is an important step on that Journey if we approach the UAP Topic in the same way as we of As Americans have met other challenges we can restore our faith in our government institutions together we can Usher in a new era of accountable government and scientific discovery I believe that we as Americans can handle the truth and I also believe the world deserves the truth thank you esteemed

53:44members of Congress for your time today it is profoundly appreciated by many thank you I ask unanimous consent for representatives ogal of Tennessee and bobbert of Colorado to be waved onto the subcommittee for today's joint sub Committee hearing for the purpose of asking questions without objection so ordered I would now like to recognize Mr shellenberger for his introductory remarks chairwoman mace chairman grathan ranking member Connelly ranking member Garcia members of the subcommittees thank you for inviting my testimony one of congress's most important responsibilities is oversight of the executive branch in general and the military and intelligence community in particular unfortunately there is a growing body of evidence that the US government is not being transparent about what it knows about unidentified anomalous phenomena and that elements

54:30within the military and the IC are in violation of their constitutional duty to notify Congress of their operations president-elect Donald Trump and former president Barack Obama have both said that the government has information about uaps that it has not released current um there are other explanations for uaps than that that they represent a new form of life for non-human life current dominant alternative theories including those put forward by Arrow are that uaps are some kind of natural phenomena we don't yet understand like ball lightning or plasma they could also be part of some new us or foreign government weapons program such as drones aircraft balloons CGI hoaxes or Birds whatever uaps Are

55:15Congress must be informed as as must the people of the United States we have a right to know what uaps are no matter what they are however we now have existing and former US government officials who have told Congress that arrow and the Pentagon have broken the law by not revealing a significant body of information about uaps including Military Intelligence databases that have evidence of their existence as physical craft one of those individuals is a current or former US government official acting as a UAP whistleblower this person has written a report this is the report that says the executive branch has been managing UAP nhi issues without Congressional knowledge oversight or authorization for some time quite possibly decades furthermore these

56:00individuals have revealed the name of an active and highly secretive DOD unacknowledged special Access program or usap the source of that document told public me that the usap is a strategic intelligence program that is part of the US military family of long-standing highly sensitive programs dealing with various aspects of the UAP problem the new UAP whistleblower claims that the US Military and IC database includes videos images taken using infrared forward-looking infrared full motion video and still photography the report that was just shared with Congress says Immaculate constellation serves as a central or parent use app that consolidates observations of uaps by both tasked and untasted collection platforms Immaculate constellation

56:45includes high quality imagery intelligence and measurement and signature intelligence of uaps the whle blowers report ads the sources of this intelligence are a blend of directed and incidental collection capacities capabil ities positioned in low earth orbit the upper atmosphere as well as military and civilian Aviation altitudes and Marine time environments the report to Congress details in detail various uaps including spheres orbs discs saucers ovals triangles Boomerang Arrowhead and irregular organic report describes various incidents found in the human intelligence databases one involved orbs surrounding and enforcing an F-22 out of its Patrol area in another incident the crew of a Navy aircraft carrier watched the small orent red sphere rapidly descend from a high altitude of 100 to 200 yards directly above the flight deck

57:31of a of the CVN or aircraft carrier and since my reporting on this Immaculate constellation last month another source came forward who told me that they saw a roughly 13-minute long highdef full color video of a white orb UAP coming out of the ocean approximately 20 mi off the coast of Kuwait it was filmed from a helicopter then halfway through the video the person said the orb is joined by another orb that briefly comes into the frame from the left before rapidly moving again out of the frame the person discovered the video on siipper the secure Internet Protocol router Network which the dod uses to transmit classified information a leading UAP researcher who utilizes the Freedom of Information Act to find out what the government knows John Greenwald told me last year that the US government had been increasingly

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