David Grusch on VETTED: crash-retrieval claims

3:22that this information that David Grusch just put out actually came from. And well, it started with an interview from James Fox. >> I had Leslie Kean on my show on when I worked on Fox and Friends back in the day on Fox News before the revelations that came out of the New York Times article >> >> and what she was working on. And so I thought here's the moment. 10 years ago, James, can you believe it's been 10 years since we have the Tic Tac story appearing in the freaking New York Times? And And these people keep stonewalling and stonewalling and they keep telling us, "Oh, this is classified." Like, who's preventing David Grusch from telling us this stuff? That's the most frustrating part of this. >> This is coming out. He assured me today that he will address this issue to the

4:08general public very soon, in the near future. So, I can't speak to what he's going to say, but I'm just telling you from what I heard out of his mouth in you know, in sitting in an office of a member of Congress, and everybody in the room you could you could have heard a pin drop. >> And of course, when you hear that from James Fox, you think, "Wow, what is David Grusch talking about?" Right? And of course, we all remember David Grusch saying this a few years ago. >> You believe we have crashed craft, uh, stated earlier. Do we have the bodies of the pilots who piloted this craft? >> As I've stated publicly already in my NewsNation interview, uh, biologics came to some of these recoveries. Yeah. >> Um

4:54were they I guess human or non-human biologics? >> Non-human, and that was the assessment of people, uh, with direct knowledge on the program I talked to that are currently still on the program. >> And was this documentary evidence as video, photos, eyewitness? Like, how would that be determined? >> The specific documentation I would have to talk to you in a sec about. >> And almost 3 years to the month when he said that, right? And so, he's back, uh, with more proof, if you will. At least, that's what James Fox is saying, right? Because these are the comments that everyone is talking about from David Grusch. >> David, Lisa Booth here. A lot of times these sightings end up having ordinary

5:40explanations. Um, tell us about some that you've seen that defy the ordinary. >> Yeah, certainly some of them are ordinary and some of them end up being, you know, foreign programs and our own blue programs. Seen a lot of different interesting anomalous videos where we had, you know, orbs cooler than background temperature moving at 400 knots, you know, things like that. Certainly, like I said in my presser on Tuesday, I did get access to crash retrieval photos and everything. So, I've seen the the recovered vehicles and everything. So, I would say that's probably the the most stupendous thing, earth-shattering thing that, you know, changed my worldview when I got access to some of that years ago and I I do hope the administration, and I think they will,

6:26release that information in a further drop. >> David, I got I got to just jump in real quick there and give you a chance to talk about these crash site and vehicles because you got the the hair on my on my wrist standing up. Just real quickly, I don't want to filibuster Joey here, but I'm very into this. Tell me about these these crash sites that you've seen personally. >> Yeah, a lot of them looked like what we saw in some of the reporting dropped on Friday. There was a 1948 memo from the Chief of Naval Operations that discussed the flying disc pandemic that they were having and they were enlisting help of the Air Force Intelligence Service. A lot of it was lenticular discs, some was crescent moon shapes. I call it the flattened sunfish. There's a

7:11bunch of different morphologies that the US government has recovered from eggs to discs to to, you know, crescent moon boomerang type vehicles and and I got a small smattering sample of that of of ones that have, you know, >> >> landed or crashed on the surface of the earth. >> I mean, you have David Grusch saying he's seen photos of the crash recoveries and can even describe all the different types of UFOs that the US has in position. And again, he's saying he's seen photos of this. Let me be honest, this is the first time he has said this. I cover this, trust me, and I'm sure a lot of you also recognize this as something new, which is why the entire UFO community is going bonkers over this,

7:56right? But, I have a question. Why hasn't he said this before, right? This is kind of crazy, if you think about it. And when I started to think about that, I thought, well, maybe he's dropped some similar information like this before, and we just didn't catch it, but it's never been so clear as what he just said in the video I just showed you. But, at the presser that um James Fox is talking about, right, that happened this past Tuesday, which I covered in a live stream, feel free to check that out. Um David Grusch spoke along many other people there, right, to push for UFO transparency,

8:41disclosure, whistleblower protection. Um and I thought, did he say something there? Because that's what he's saying, right? In my presser, I said this. Wait a second, you didn't say you saw photos, right? Or at least not that specifically. >> In my official duties, I was exposed to human and signals intelligence information concerning foreign adversary UAP crash retrieval, exploitation study efforts, adversary views on US legacy program reverse engineering efforts, and US held audio-visual information related to crash retrieval matters, >> >> such as the recovered vehicles and the associated biological material. >> Ah, there it is, if you listen closely, and apparently I wasn't listening

9:26closely >> >> during that presser, because I didn't initially catch it that way. You know, he said audio-visual, right? So, but again, you got to be very clear, and that's probably why he went back on Fox News and said it much more clear. I have seen photos of this stuff, and here's what they look like, right? Which is why James Fox was like, "Oh my god, wait till you hear what David Grusch has to say." Right? And even James Fox agrees, because in that same interview that I showed you earlier a clip from, James Fox alludes to this audio-visual comment. >> >> Mr. Grusch yesterday publicly said there have been several dozen

10:11several dozen cases involving the government examining what he called non-human biologics, okay? Let that sink in. He was exposed to US-held audio-visual, okay? Visual info on recovered vehicles and the associated biologic materials. And we are making a direct plea to President Trump right now to release those files that he has seen. >> So, basically, something he said at that presser that just happened about less than a week ago, he's basically clarifying in this new Fox News

10:57interview, right? Like, "No, no, I've seen the photos." Okay, I get it. But actually, I dug even further, and about 7 months ago he might have actually revealed the information there, and people just didn't catch it. I remember something about this, and I remember covering it, but again, he was never so specific as he was in this most recent clip. Let me explain. Let's go back to November of 2025, this past year, when David Grusch went on Fox News with Bret Baier, and he said this. >> You believe that we have encountered alien beings and that they've come to Earth and that we know about it as a US government. >> That seems to be the case. I don't like

11:43to characterize necessarily where they came from. They're definitely some kind of non-human sentients, but it is true, believe it or not, we've recovered the vehicles um and we actually have physical proof and I was actually uh partially cleared into some of those activities. It was beyond uh oral testimony provided to me. I actually had partial access uh to the data and actually read the intelligence reports uh resulting from those programs. >> Like with your own eyes, you saw it. >> Yes. >> Okay, so he's alluding to seeing reports with his own eyes, right? But that still doesn't explain the photos, right? Cuz again, I'm just like, why haven't you said this before? People have been wondering this. Was David Grusch a firsthand witness, right? And he did

12:29kind of also say this in that exact same interview. >> And when you mentioned in that testimony of recovering the pilots or or remains, >> >> non-human, that's something that you saw as far as the intelligence with your eyes? >> Yes. And >> >> it is a very uncomfortable, uh even for me now as as somebody who's seen it, experienced it, even talking about it cuz it's so um outside my normal person's worldview to understand that there is um this biological sentience that have piloted these crafts that don't necessarily look 100% like you and I. >> pictures? Were there >> There were. Yes, there were. >> So he may have revealed this way back then, but again, he wasn't so specific as to say, I saw those photos, you know,

13:15there were there were photos in the I mean, maybe we should have put that together. I don't know. But what's interesting is also, you have, you know, David Grusch sort of revealing like he just saw this. He just saw this stuff most recently. That's kind of what I took from it. He just saw it. That's why he's revealing it. He saw it the same day as the presser that he gave last Tuesday. >> Um on Tuesday, um I did get access to crash retrieval photos and everything. So, I've seen the the recovered vehicles and everything. So, I would say that's probably the the most stupendous thing uh earth-shattering thing that, you know, changed my worldview. >> But, he's kind of been alluding to this for a while. So, again, I don't know. I'm confused, to be honest with you. And I'm sure some of you watching go, "Why are you confused, Patrick, you

14:00idiot?" Okay, maybe it's just me. I don't know. Because I like to focus on the nuance and the details, and something's not adding up. But, regardless, if what David Grusch is saying and he's seen that evidence, why isn't that being released to the public? That's what we need to focus on. Is that kind of stuff. That's what I've been screaming about, right? Especially after this last third file dump that happened, right? That I did a live stream for as well, if you want to check that out. I mean, it's been crap. And I saw people freaking out over this. Oh, this has been great. This is it. Am I crazy? What are we talking David Grusch has said he's seen UAP crashed UFOs. He can describe them. Why aren't we seeing that stuff? Why aren't we seeing these weird little just

14:47That's the kind of stuff that's going to convince the public. If you want, you know, UAP transparency, want whistleblower protections, you want all of these things that keep getting asked for, amnesty for people to come forward, show that evidence. Then, you'll definitely have the public behind you going, "Yes. Let's get these people protections and amnesty and this and that, right? This stuff exist. Photo and video evidence of extraterrestrials or whatever we want to call them, right? Of crashed recoveries, the bodies, the beings. And lots of them. Not It's not just like one incident here, right? They're talking about an 80-year cover-up with all kinds of evidence.

15:32If you really want to get support, release that stuff. Not birds, balloons, weird little lights in the sky from a long ways away that nobody can tell what it is. >> >> Not when you're saying you have this other stuff. If you never said you have the other stuff, then okay, this is what we would go with. Right? It's very interesting. We'll have to wait and see, but there is a part of me that's excited by this, David Grusch saying this. I wish okay, you've seen the stuff, right? And I want to know who showed it to him this past Tuesday, right? That's kind of important. Wait, wait, you just got this information. Who showed it to you? And then he revealed it to Congress. Or was it just that David Grusch revealed it on Tuesday to Congress, to people, right?

16:17That's why everyone was like, "Oh my god." But did David Grusch also get the information? So he got the information, then went to Congress? Or he's known it all along, like I've alluded to, right? Some past interviews he's from last um November. He has been talking about this if you listened closely. Does any of that matter? I mean, not really at the end of the day because the evidence is what matters, and getting that released to the public for us to see. We'll have to wait and see. But in this same Fox News interview that David Grusch just did, he also talked about some other things that I found to be interesting, such as the ability to cover this stuff up with

17:03the misuse of funds. >> Robert, I want to ask you about recent allegations you've made accusing intel agencies of hiding billions of dollars in secret government spending from Congress. I mean, I we know about uh, Air America, you know, the done stuff like that or even Iran-Contra. So, we've seen this happen before. It's not, you know, it's not aliens. It's what our government does. But, tell us what you know about that. >> Yeah, certainly earlier in my career I was a counter-threat finance analyst. I actually worked in a special cell looking at arms trafficking and terrorist funding. So, I have that background in in counter finance. And what I found was there were haircuts taken to classified black programs uh, to fund this. There was also self-funding

17:48uh, cutout companies if you're familiar and you mentioned Iran-Contra. And they had cutout companies um, self-funding some of the arms purchases uh, for the contras. Uh, but also uh, criminal enterprises unfortunately is kind of the third way I saw laundering money. And I actually bumped into a very serious criminal enterprise and and all that information was actually reported to uh, Department of Justice. And it led to um, some federal investigations and things I can't mention now. But, uh, the DOJ is actually handling that now cuz I bumped into a uh, government-run uh, criminal enterprise that was siphoning money uh, for this topic as well to pay for kind of the the crash retrieval operations off books. >> I mean again, that's kind of part of David Grusch's testimony from the very beginning. There's been a misuse of

18:33funds, right? As he called it a criminal sort of enterprise run by the government to cover up the UFO uh, recovery, reverse engineering, the bodies, right? And that's always been kind of the lore. And David Grusch is saying he found evidence of that. Well, it's been 3 years. What is happening with that, right? Now, granted, you might say, "Well, it's must mean there's nothing there if they if they haven't done anything in 3 years." And I probably said that myself to some extent. But, if you really think about it, the government is really slow to blame itself for problems. Even though the government is not one entity, it's made up of many entities. Still, it's really hard to go after things like

19:18this. So, I can definitely see if it's true, bureaucracy and sort of political dynamics getting in the way of them actually investigating what Grusch uncovered. And even if they investigated, actually bringing that to light and doing something about it. I mean, there's a lot of things I could say for stuff that's been put out that the government knows about and they don't do anything about it. Uh something that might rhyme with Epstein, right? Uh nothing happened with that either, right? So, this could be the same scenario and it wouldn't surprise me again. I don't know. I'm just trying to be fair on both sides here. Now, David Grusch also said this.

20:05>> You know, David, I feel like to some of the skeptics out there, you know, you just talked about an example dating back to the 1940s. There's been evidence or allegations for decades. And the the cynics or the skeptics might say, "If there's truly some big conspiracy here to hide all this from us, that's now involving so many people to keep these secrets and keep the you know, the conspiracy going, is that really plausible or realistic? How do you address that question that people might ask?" >> Yeah, you know, at any given time there's probably several thousand people briefed and then that you remember it's a an onion model. So, people at the top, you're looking at less than 200 that really know a lot of this information. Um as somebody who was originally ultra

20:51cleared, I was cleared to the entire black budget of the Department of Defense at one point. Um we do keep a lot of secrets as America and there are multi-decade thousands of people briefed to certain sensitive activities we do around the world and it's never leaked. And conversely, actually, the subject at some level has been leaking since almost its inception because you had qualified observers seeing this phenomena and then you did had to have information about crash retrievals and other things like, you know, historical events that have been documented like Virginia and Brazil in '96, which the Brazilian defense minister recently in a statement confirmed that that event actually happens. And if you watch an episode on of American Alchemy with Jesse Michaels, you can actually watch the interview.

21:36So, the government is very good at keeping secrets, but at the same time this subject actually has been leaking at some level as well. But, you know, we have tactic tactics, techniques, and procedures to to keep the lid on a lot of sensitive things, believe it or not. >> And look, that's a great question, right? What do you say to the skeptics? I've had the same conversation that say, "Well, if there is this huge cover-up, there'd be thousands of people involved. How how would this be possible to really keep something like this secret?" Well, I mean, I have said that and I do wonder and it that is a possibility and a good question, right? But, if you look at the other side of the coin just again just to play, you know, devil's advocate and to be fair, the government does keep secrets

22:22and it is good at keeping secrets, right? There's a lot of things we don't know about the government and secret projects that they work on. In fact, we don't know what we don't know. We don't even know how much >> >> of secrets they have. I mean, clearly not every thing that they work on and are aware of the public is aware of. So, it is possible. Now, you might say, "Well, yeah, but the dynamic of the alien stuff, whatever, that would change it. That would people would come out with that." Not necessarily. Right? That is totally a possibility. I don't know, that's a tough one. But, definitely a good debate and conversation to have, I think, whatever side of the coin you're on and you're making that argument. I think they're both valid, right? Both sides and that's why it's a good debate

23:07um and a good question to ask and David Grusch brings up a good point, right? Now, he does bring up the Varginha incident >> >> um as well in this Jesse Michaels video. I just made a video about that. >> >> Um there's a little bit of nuance there. The defense minister who came out and said that Varginha, you know, he thinks it happened. He's not saying any of that uh former defense minister. He's not saying any of that because uh it's stuff he learned while he was defense minister. He's just saying that as a private citizen. In fact, he said they didn't even look into this stuff cuz they had other things to worry about, right? They didn't even look into UFOs. So, again, this is coming after the fact, right? So, I'm just just to be fair. Got to be

23:52fair on both sides here. So, I don't know how much validity that gives it, you know, he is a credible person, you might say, but again, nothing he learned in his official capacity. It's all unofficial. So, it's really just like me or you saying uh you know, I think Varginha happened. Okay, he's the former defense minister of Brazil. So, him saying he thinks something happened in Brazil, you know, I guess it might hold a little bit more weight, but not as much as people are giving it because again, it's nothing he learned while he was defense minister. So, it's not like he has >> >> he got to see some secret we have never seen. He's just going off the same interviews >> >> and documentaries from James Fox

24:38that we've all seen. And again, I'm not saying there's nothing compelling about that case. I actually think it's a very compelling case. Granted it has some red flags, but it's still nonetheless compelling. So, I don't know, right? But regardless, David Grusch makes some good points. It is a good debate to have >> >> and um you know, it's one of those things that will kind of always fight back and forth. And really till we know the truth, it's it will be a continued conversation and I'm here for it. Now, let's talk whistleblower protections. Because this is something I've always found to be quite interesting. Of course, I want people to be protected who want to blow the whistle on uh something, you know, that is deeply

25:24disturbing, hiding a secret, right? The government's breaking laws, whatever. Okay, let's it's accountability, whistleblowing on accountability. Absolutely. Right? And there's a big thing in the UFO community, of course this happened a long time. We need whistleblowers to come out. God, would somebody just come out and say something already, right? Show the evidence, Snowden, just bring it out, just release the stuff. Well, you know, there's something very interesting about the whole argument and we'll get into it in a second, but this is what David Grusch has said is his experience of being a whistleblower. >> David, just real quickly, are you fearing for your life at all? Um, or or blowback? I know that you've been very

26:10outspoken, but after watching a lot of documentaries on this, there are a lot of whistleblowers that speak of the things that you're speaking of. Um, is there a price that you pay for that? >> Yeah, there is a severe price. And certainly my wife and I witnessed a lot of things in our personal life to send me a message when I was, you know, at NGA and still an intelligence officer. The administrative terrorism was immense. And like I mentioned in my presser, even the Air Force uh A2 or the intelligence directorate, you know, tried to get an Espionage Act on you know, an unauthorized disclosure investigation on me when I went public in 2023 and testified in front of uh the House Oversight Committee. And certainly recently uh my good Air Force friend uh Matthew call sign Quake Sullivan

26:55did pass away mysteriously before he was willing to come to the hill to testify about his knowledge of these activities and and Quake was a bronze star recipient and an Air Force officer until officer friend of mine that I served with and you know he was one of my you know sources in my investigation and you know he you know he passed away mysteriously and that is an ongoing FBI matter so I won't characterize I'm open to you know different conclusions of what happened but just you know to your point there's been a lot of anomalous things that have happened to people I've had anomalous health incidents happen to people that were helping me in my investigation you know Havana syndrome if you will and now that the government is finally admitting that that issue is real that issue sort of paralyzes issue they

27:41deny deny deny until all of a sudden just kidding we know it's real so I certainly I've been at fear for my life in the past. >> Now again anything happening to David Grusch or anybody in particular life threatening family that's horrendous right absolutely I've complete compassion for that. But what I would say is if you're really trying to get more people to come out and be whistleblowers maybe telling people your life has been threatened your family's been threatened it's been horrendous they've gone after your job your pension your this your that. How convincing do you think that is for people to come out then and be a whistleblower?

28:26Who's who's sitting around going well let me sign up for that? Nobody I mean if you're recruiting for a job right you you're not going to tell people it's the worst job you could ever have. So I just find it a very odd strategy to tell people how bad it is to be a whistleblower but please come blow the whistle. And again, I'm just speaking hypothetically here, but if I was running the UFO legacy program, which of course would never happen because I'm a complete Um I might have a fake whistleblower go forward and say how bad it is, right? How their life has been ruined by being a whistleblower if

29:11I want to prevent people from blowing the whistle. Right? That's a good strategy to hit everybody and just let them know it's not good to come out, right? Especially from someone you might think is like you. I'm not saying David Grusch is a fake whistleblower. I'm just saying it would be a good strategy to do something like that. Is that happening? I don't know at the end of the day, right? And I just am speaking hypothetically. Just want to make that clear. Just speculating, right? You let me know what you think in the comments. Is it a good idea for whistleblowers to tell us how bad it is to be a whistleblower so that we can get other whistleblowers to come forward?

29:56I don't know. I mean, David Grusch said this back in November again in that same Bret Baier Fox interview. >> For the other people who are coming out, you say to them what? You've obviously faced intimidation. You talked about harassment. Uh there are reports that others have to. >> I say that there's hope. Um certainly Congress values whistleblower information right now and certainly >> >> I believe there's an appetite with the administration to do the right thing on this as well. Um >> >> and there's some other things that are happening behind the scenes that I'll let the administration discuss when they're ready. >> Again, this is something that's being said a lot. I mean, you even had David Grusch in that uh most recent interview

30:42talking about his friend Matthew Sullivan who mysteriously died trying to come forward. Again, is that a good strategy to get people to come forward? You could mysteriously die. Your life will be ruined. Again, I don't know. It's like at the same time we want to know the truth, right? Um you know, whistleblowers are probably the the the more hopeful side could be, well, they're just trying to gain compassion from people of like, hey, I'm going through a lot to bring you this information, right? But the double edged sword of that coming forward like that and saying that stuff is you're not convincing anybody to come forward as a whistleblower. I can't imagine someone who's working on this alleged, you know, UFO program going, oh man, whistleblowing sounds phenomenal.

31:29You might die, lose everything, right? I mean, again, just seems like an odd strategy and if I were trying to cover it up, that's what I would do. Send people out to say how bad it is to be a whistleblower. Again, just speculating. Now, with all this news from David Grusch and the press conference he just gave with everybody, um you know, people keep and all the files being released by Trump, people are saying we're we're at a peak right now. Things are happening. Things are moving. We're getting closer to disclosure, right? Well, something very interesting that just happened that the White House just confirmed, >> >> um is this science advisory board, okay, to study UAP.

32:15It's being led by Dr. Avi Loeb, the same Avi Loeb from Harvard who talked about Oumuamua, 3I Atlas. I mean, I've even interviewed Avi Loeb a couple times and they have him leading this advisory board. The White House has just been confirmed. >> The three UAP file releases thus far attracted more than a billion views and a lot of chatter on social media. However, to paraphrase the wisdom of basketball players, we must keep our eyes on the orbs, not on the audience. Science is done differently than Hollywood films.

33:00What could be better of doing than the establishment of a new UAP science advisory council by the White House, AARO, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, ODNI, the FBI, and all intelligence community members? This is not wishful thinking, but a reality now. Over the past week, I was tasked by the above organizations to create a research team of young scientists who will serve on this council. >> I got to admit, I find that very interesting. And they've even chosen a panel, right? There are people that will be on this. Where is it going?

33:45It just started. We don't know. Now, I'm going to make a separate video to dive really deep into it, but let me at least tell you who's on this panel. Of course, we have Dr. Avi Loeb leading the way. Then we've got Dr. Regina Sarmiento. We've got Professor Gary Nolan, Dr. Tim Gallaudet, Dr. Jenice Vilhauer, Professor Matthew Szydagis, Dr. Devesh Nandlall, Professor Peter Skafish, Dr. Michael Shermer, Dr. Richard Cloutier, and Dr. O'Mara. Now, I may have gotten a few of those names wrong. I apologize. Um and again, I'm going to make a separate video and let's dive into each one of those people and see what they bring to the board. What is their

34:31specialty, right? What is this board being made up of to study UAP? Now, one person in particular on that list is Dr. Michael Shermer. What I like that he's chosen is he's a very well-known skeptic about UFOs. So, I'm glad Dr. Avi Loeb is keeping it a little bit of a balance, right? And some of these other people may be skeptics as well. Again, I see nothing wrong with that, right? So, could something good come of this? Yeah, absolutely. I mean, that's kind of a big deal, to be honest with you. So, we'll have to wait and see how much funding, time, effort, resources they put into this and what exactly comes of all of it, right? But again, I'll make a separate video. We'll dive

35:16into all of it and check it all out. All right, Vedders, if you haven't seen it already, my new documentary, Veddits' very first feature documentary, Cyanics: The Minds That Summon UFOs, is out now. Go to cyanics.film and let me know what you think about it. We'll see you guys on the next one. Remember, Vedders, every day's a gift, y'all. Peace. >>