שימוע עב״מים בקונגרס: טיל הלפייר מול עצם ליד תימן

3:37served most of his career with the DIA, a very trusted high level rocket scientist and intelligence analyst who inspired the OSAP program as I said earlier. And in you know in full disclosure I've co-written two books with him. He dropped this on myself and our other co-author out of the blue and it took 14 months for us to get Doppser approval for him to release two sentences on that. He said, "This craft we had uh managed to get inside of it. It had no wings, no rotor, no tail. It had no fuel, no fuel tanks. They didn't know how it flew or how it was operated. It clearly looked like it was aerodynamic, but uh he would not go further. He's a by the book guy, and until he gets clearance to say more

4:22about that, I I don't think we're going to hear much more. But it's not ours. It wasn't ours. We didn't make it. We didn't know who made it and how it was built and how it operated. We've got at least one and I don't know. I think that's enough confirmation that we've we do have recovered discs and materials. >> Lastly, Mr. Borland, um, in the in the classified realm, have you been exposed to undeniable confirmation of NHI technology? And then my second question is, is base systems involved in any way with reverse engineering exploitation of non-human intelligence craft? Yeah, we're going to have to we're going to have to have a conversation to skip for that. Whether I'm legally even allowed to answer that and whether you're even allowed to hear it, sir.

5:07>> Okay. Again, you can you can sense our frustration. And so, I just want to thank you for coming forward. We will continue to fight because look, this is about making sure that this government belongs to the people and restoring the republic the way it was intended to be. Um, Madam Chair, I also have further witnesses of courageous individuals. It was given to me by Dr. Steven Greer, um, including Michael Herrera and his testimony. Um, we have Rodri Castle and his testimony, Randy Anderson, his testimony, Steven Dign, and and others, three others, all saying similar things to what the witnesses today have said. And I would like to enter that into the record as well. >> No objection. you know, at this point, I

5:54think it's clear from from the hearing that there's advanced technologies that are taking place um in our airspace. You know, the question is, and I posed it in one of the previous hearings, is it ours? Is it theirs? Or is it otherworldly? Uh there may not be a silver bullet at the moment, but when you look back through the hearing and the evidence that's been presented, if you're going to point the American people to one piece of evidence to start their journey on this topic, what would you suggest, sir? One piece of evidence. Um I would I would start with this hearing and in in the first hearing. Um

6:41there is no evidence. >> But is there a specific Exactly. But is there a specific evidence or footage or document that that you think lends extreme credibility to what we're talk discussing today? >> I would say this new video we're seeing today is exceptional evidence that we're dealing with something >> with the kinetic. >> Yes. >> Mr. Wiggins. Sir, I'd have to say that uh if just the average person here in America looked at absolutely everything that has come across television, the internet, etc., uh you can't tell yourself that 100% of what's being recorded is fake or false. You have to at some point understand that there's something else uh out there. >> Well, I mean, and you bring an interesting point. You know, the law enforcement community, anytime you're

7:26you're conducting investigation, you're always looking at the totality of the circumstances. looking at all the evidence evidence and how they piece together. And so that would be my, you know, advice to the American people that this is a journey that is just beginning from a congressional perspective, but you have decades of data. Some of it not real, much of it is, but thanks to Chairwoman Luna, we're now presenting this to the American people. And I think this latest video from Mr. Berles is something that should get every everyone pause. uh when you think when you see the three orbs that drop, was that in a defensive posture or is that in an offensive posture? And what capabilities did those orbs have that we quite frankly may not have? Mr. Knap,

8:13as I mentioned at the beginning of my remarks, what hooked me on the story was the paper trail. Uh these documents that shouldn't exist. We've been told for decades over and over, there's nothing to it. It's not a threat. You can go about your business. And then when foyer becomes the law of the land, thousands of pages to the contrary leak out. There's a a a memo by General Nathan Twining in 1947 when the country was being overflown by uh dozens of UFOs, hundreds of UFOs in which he said, "Look, this is not uh visionary or fictitious. It's real. These things are craft. They're not ours. They outperform anything we've got." I mean, if you follow the paper trail of documents that they wrote before the military got wise and and realized that FOYA really exists and changed their tune and not put

8:59things in writing, it spells it out pretty clearly. The I'll I'll go refer back to Russia. One incident I did not mention, Representative B. Berles, is there are Colonel Sakalov in that Ministry of Defense uh program said there were 40 incidents where Russian warplanes were sent to intercept UFOs and they were ordered to fire on them and for the most part the UFOs would zip away. Three of the pilots though did fire at these things. Those three planes stalled out, crashed. Two of those pilots died. And after that, the Russians changed the standing order. If you see a UFO, leave them alone. No country in the world wants to say and admit that these objects are flying around in our airspace and there's nothing we can do about it. I mean, who wants to say that? The US certainly doesn't. The Russians didn't either. >> And I've got to be almost out of time,

9:44but uh Mr. Berlin, then you, sir, real quickly. >> Yeah, to be honest with you, I think Bob Lazar and not for the reasons that most would talk about, mainly because Bob Lazar was immediately discredited. They said he never worked where he worked. They said he never did what he did. But yet Bob Lazar showed up with a bunch of friends and a video camera and was filming these test flights in the middle of the desert. So clearly he knew something.